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Post by Happenstance on Feb 9, 2014 13:46:52 GMT
I'm interested to hear people's thoughts on how this will do and if its interesting to them after I was talking with c0Zm1c about it on another forum. Would you be interested in getting one? If you are a console only gamer would this be the thing to bring you to PC gaming? If you already have a good PC would you even want one?
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Post by flameboy on Feb 9, 2014 15:42:58 GMT
I still don't quite get the point....the price point's are mostly too high to hit critical mass and then if your PC gamer who is buying/building a PC why would you buy one hampered by a Linux based OS that would prevent you from playing as many games as you would like.
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Post by MoogleViper on Feb 9, 2014 16:02:18 GMT
I still don't quite get the point....the price point's are mostly too high to hit critical mass and then if your PC gamer who is buying/building a PC why would you buy one hampered by a Linux based OS that would prevent you from playing as many games as you would like. It's not supposed to replace gaming PCs, it's an out-of-the-box gaming PC for people who might be less comfortable with PC specs or building their own. Basically it will alleviate some of the distinctions between consoles and PCs, allowing for a less tech savvy audience to become PC gamers. I won't buy the box myself, but I am looking forwards to the controller and the increase in game dev.
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Post by c0Zm1c on Feb 9, 2014 18:46:01 GMT
I see it as another console really. One that plays PC games but will have the ease of use console gamers are accustomed to and expect.
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Post by Cube on Feb 9, 2014 19:53:31 GMT
It's not supposed to replace gaming PCs, it's an out-of-the-box gaming PC for people who might be less comfortable with PC specs or building their own. Basically it will alleviate some of the distinctions between consoles and PCs, allowing for a less tech savvy audience to become PC gamers. But with the wide range of Steam Machines, the people looking at buying one will still need to look into the specs of devices, as well as the specs of the games. On top of this, it has a much more limited game library than a Windows machine. All I see is a more limited PC put into a case that will look better under a TV (well, some of them are) and sold with a controller.
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Post by The Peeps on Feb 9, 2014 22:40:50 GMT
I already have a high spec PC and lots of PC games so I'm not really interested in the steambox... the controller is intriguing though and I'd like to try that. I don't think I'm the target audience for the 'console' though. It still has to run off a PC anyway so I'm not sure casual users would really take to it.
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Post by flameboy on Feb 10, 2014 13:06:09 GMT
I still don't quite get the point....the price point's are mostly too high to hit critical mass and then if your PC gamer who is buying/building a PC why would you buy one hampered by a Linux based OS that would prevent you from playing as many games as you would like. It's not supposed to replace gaming PCs, it's an out-of-the-box gaming PC for people who might be less comfortable with PC specs or building their own.Basically it will alleviate some of the distinctions between consoles and PCs, allowing for a less tech savvy audience to become PC gamers. I won't buy the box myself, but I am looking forwards to the controller and the increase in game dev. But see that's where the problem lies for me still? I'm not a technical person either when it comes to building PCs....however I would still go and buy a Windows based gaming rig over this. Then take the other extreme from a technical person and you have a casual gamer/new gamer. I don't think they will want to spend the amount of money some of these are going for when they can get a PS4/Xbox One for less than half in some cases and they likely won't notice any graphical differences.
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Post by c0Zm1c on Feb 10, 2014 17:54:38 GMT
I think Valve should have established some kind of easier to understand requirements system for the games on Steam and the Steambox hardware. Then have had the hardware manufacturers build their Steambox's around this system so there's no confusion. So say if a Steambox has a gold rating (purely an example!), all gold rated games on Steam should run fine on that system.
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Post by Happenstance on Feb 10, 2014 17:58:16 GMT
Kind of like a Nintendo Seal of Quality for system requirements ratings.
It still seems weird to me that games may not all work or not work as well depending on the Steambox. Yes I know it will be upgradable but then that brings it back to who is this being marketed to. If it is the people that dont have a gaming PC then are they going to want to fork out the money for the Steambox then again when they need to upgrade it?
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Post by c0Zm1c on Feb 10, 2014 18:29:03 GMT
I think there will come a point when they want to. Lots of people said last gen dragged on too long so those people were obviously prepared to shell out on new machines, even though there was still new games coming to 360 and PS3. I don't know though, it'll differ from individual to individual, especially with this platform offering more choice. A good PC can last for several years if the player is prepared to play with increasingly lower settings as their hardware grows older so it might not affect some people as much as it does others.
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Post by flameboy on Feb 10, 2014 19:05:58 GMT
I think Valve should have established some kind of easier to understand requirements system for the games on Steam and the Steambox hardware. Then have had the hardware manufacturers build their Steambox's around this system so there's no confusion. So say if a Steambox has a gold rating (purely an example!), all gold rated games on Steam should run fine on that system. Yes anything, a traffic light system, something people would understand.
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Post by Happenstance on Feb 10, 2014 19:07:12 GMT
I still think Steam needs a system in place where it either allows you to input your system specs like Game Debate or scans your PC so when you go on store pages it can tell you if you can run the game or not.
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Post by Cube on Feb 10, 2014 19:09:15 GMT
I still think Steam needs a system in place where it either allows you to input your system specs like Game Debate or scans your PC so when you go on store pages it can tell you if you can run the game or not. They already scan PCs: store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey
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Post by Happenstance on Feb 10, 2014 19:10:46 GMT
I still think Steam needs a system in place where it either allows you to input your system specs like Game Debate or scans your PC so when you go on store pages it can tell you if you can run the game or not. They already scan PCs: store.steampowered.com/hwsurveyBut they dont do it directly on store pages, which is what I said I wanted.
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Post by Cube on Feb 10, 2014 19:13:05 GMT
What I mean is that they already have the scanning part sorted. They just need to link it with the specs listed on the store page and automatically highlight any problems.
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